Why I’m Here

At the end of last century the Baptists came into a terrible crisis, the church moving more to the Trinitarian thought and as such thousands of Baptists leaving that denomination.

In America itself another split had already occurred earlier, after the American Civil War, when most freedmen set up independent black congregations, regional associations, and state and national conventions, such as the National Baptist Convention, which became the second-largest Baptist convention by the end of the 19th century and the National Primitive Baptist Convention. Even then, the racial issue proved to be a sensitive and tricky point in the American Baptist movement.

At the beginning of the 21st century it seems the organisation that created the problems in Europe is now itself also in crisis. Christian denomination Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) based in the United States of America has become the world’s largest Baptist denomination, and the largest Protestant and second-largest Christian denomination in the United States, smaller than the Roman Catholic Church, according to self-reported membership statistics.

The publication of an extraordinary February 24, 2020, letter by the president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, Russell Moore pointed to a breach caused by the stands Moore had taken against sexual abuse within the SBC and on racial reconciliation, which had infuriated the executive committee.
Unbelievable that he was attacked because he did not defend racists and sex abusers, though one would think a Christian organisation would be totally against such an abomination.

According to pastor Mike Stone Russell Moore’s back-door press release of June 2, 2021, was filled with characterisations of who Southern Baptists are. For Stone the release of the letter was clearly an attempt to influence the upcoming presidential election in the SBC.

The problem with many main churches or big organisations, like SBC is that they are afraid when their dirty laundry is hanging outside. As we have seen in the Roman Catholic Church and the Anglican Church, here too we see an attempt by that great Baptist association to sweep the dirt under the carpet and keep it out of public view.

It is now nearly three years since the scandalous evil of sexual abuse by multiple Southern Baptist pastors came to light (as well as the egregious mishandling of these allegations in some of their churches over the past two decades). While many churches have taken steps to improve their procedures and systems to protect the vulnerable, and despite good signs here and there in the SBC census numbers (as reported through the Annual Church Profile), the overall picture of numerical decline for their Convention is discouraging, especially the number that should mean the most to Baptists who adopt the moniker “Great Commission” — baptisms.

It has come so far in this world that the confession managed to provide doctrinal parameters for their seminaries and other entities, of which they say that they would not be binding on any particular church. Although last century they gave proof that they did not let any place for another doctrine than theirs, which is not the Biblical doctrine of there only being One God and Jesus to be His beloved son. Because for them there is no place for non-trinitarian Baptists, those all had to flee to other denominations (most of them going to the Jehovah’s Witnesses and masses going to the Church of God and the Abrahamic Faith Church, whilst others found smaller denominations to connect to, like the Nazarene Friends, or to a group of Bible Students (like the Russellites, the International Bible Students, the Thomasites or Christadelphians).
But the SBC also seem to have excluded some churches deemed not to be in “friendly cooperation,” usually for denying Christianity’s sexual ethic, tolerating or engaging in racism, or failing to take seriously sexual abuse.

Normally Baptists should be open-minded people who follow the teaching of the Bible, and not set human doctrines. They should consider all people equal and should be active in promoting peace, justice, and religious liberty. But those last three points seem to be long forgotten by that North American organisation.
It comes down firmly on the side of traditional Christian teaching regarding human sexuality, gender, and the role of men and women in the church and the home.

In the original movement of Baptists, in Europe there was simply no Trinitarian creedal formulation “one God in three persons” because they believed in Only One True God Who is One and not two or three. Though, by spreading in the nations that would become the United States, by the years more and more Trinitarian thoughts entered the belief group and became the cause of the 21st century crisis.

The last few decades we also could see several pastors trying to please the public and, worse, also playing on the hands of political people. Instead of not being of the world, they clearly presented themselves and their faith group as willing to support political figures in their movement to climb higher or to support their candidatures to become senators or even presidents.

No wonder that several believers, who used their common sense, choose to leave that church for what it was, making that denomination-wide weekly attendance dropped about 27% between 2006 and 2020. In the previous years we could see how far SBC members wanted to go to get more church members. Several accepted to baptise babies, which is totally against the original idea of the Anabaptists and original Baptists.




  1. Jehovah’s Witnesses not only group that preach the good news
  2. Not all Christians are followers of a Greco-Roman culture
  3. Learn how to go out into the world and proclaim the Good News of the coming Kingdom
  4. Uprooted Baptists their new idea of baptism
  5. Which Christians Actually Evangelize
  6. the Just Gospel conference
  7. Is it Time to Abandon “Evangelical?”
  8. Andrew McWilliams-Doty looks at evangelicals
  9. How the term Evangelical has grown to blur theology and ideology


Additional reading

  1. God’s forgotten Word 6 Lost Lawbook 5 Heretics
  2. A Society pleading poverty
  3. Edward Wightman
  4. Jesse Hemery and the The Goshen Fellowship
  5. Charles Price Jones better known as C. P. Jones
  6. Old and newer King James Versions and other translations #4 Steps to the women’s bibles
  7. Old and newer King James Versions and other translations #5 Further steps to women’s bibles
  8. Not according to legal description of a cult
  9. Breaking up with a cult
  10. Religions and Mainliners
  11. Catholicism, Anabaptism and Crisis of Christianity
  12. From those preaching the Gospel and Baptism in Jesus name
  13. Jehovah’s Witnesses not only group that preach the good news (Our World)
  14. Not all Christians are followers of a Greco-Roman culture (Our World)
  15. A Hebrew-Christian movement
  16. Learn how to go out into the world and proclaim the Good News of the coming Kingdom (Our World)
  17. The Most Hated Family in America
  18. Marty Duren’s Plea against Westboro Baptist Church
  19. Uprooted Baptists their new idea of baptism (Our World)
  20. the Just Gospel conference (Our World)
  21. To remove the whitewash of the Jehovah Witnesses as being the only true Bible Students and Bible Researchers
  22. Russia and evangelisation
  23. Those willing to tarnish
  24. Decrease in church attendance not only a recent feature #1 Methodist Church of Victoria and Tasmania
  25. Art and other taboos
  26. What would you do if…? Continued trial
  27. Dissolution of Bijbelvorsers (Bible scholars), Association for Bible study



  1. Andrew Bryan – Savannah, GA, Historical Marker
  2. Examining the Baptist Church and Its OriginsA First-Hand Report on the Southern Baptist Convention 2021
  3. Baptist Babylon: The evil of ‘Good ‘ole boy’ culture
  4. A Word on Behalf of the Flock
  5. Abuse of Faith: The SBC Looks as Guilty as Sin Lately
  6. Mark Lanier, Paige Patterson’s Attorney, Seeks to Sway SBC Now
  7. The SBC Isn’t Handling Its ‘Abuse of Faith’ Megascandal
  8. Ronnie Floyd Just Quit His Powerful Role With the SBC
  9. Southern Baptist leader resigns as abuse review continues
  10. The Flocks Still Hate Evangelism: Reset Button Edition
  11. Mike Stone and the Red Flag of Hypocrisy
  12. How Authoritarians Excuse Their Leaders’ HypocrisySamford, a “Southern Baptist Institution”?
  13. What Evangelism Success Claims Really Mean
  14. Evangelicals and social justice
  15. What do Seventh-day Adventists teach about salvation and the Baptists teach about obedience?
  16. The church under fire – 1
  17. The church under fire – 2
  18. Boro Baptist Church Association misuses FCRA funds for conversion activities
  19. 3 Injured As Christians, Muslims Clash Over Hijab In Ilorin
  20. S. Baptist leader: No change on marriage stance
  21. Southern Baptist Convention Did Not Do Enough
  22. Harmony Baptist Church, Lincoln County
  23. Oaky Grove Primitive Baptist Church
  24. An IFBer criticizes Neo-Evangelicalism: Guaranteed to put you to sleep
  25. ‘Bless Every Home:’ Personal Evangelism Done Super-Creepy
  26. Evangelicalism’s Intellectual Ghettoization
  27. A Resolution Worth Keeping
  28. The Moral Character of Public Officials: Remembering January 6
  29. The Southern Baptist Convention Versus John 5:24
  30. Evangelical Christian Perversion
  31. The first rule of Christian sex abuse
  32. Southern Baptist churches hope for healing in Tennessee convention after a year of challenges
  33. First Baptist Church Waco: Ministries for Adults
  34. Pastor fired after coming out as trans files lawsuit against Mississauga Baptist church
  35. Baptists of Atlantic Canada distances itself from Amherst church linked to COVID-19 outbreak
  36. Former Hamilton pastor facing charge tied to possession of child pornography
  37. Why an Intergenerational Model is Better than a Multigenerational Approach
  38. Edgar Mullins’ Axioms and 2022 America
  39. A Failed Worldview
  40. Sharing Christ with Others: Be the Light
  41. Teach No Other Doctrine

In the Thicket

The SBC is in crisis. That’s not hyperbole, that’s not being overdramatic, that is fact. The denomination is facing it’s biggest threat ever, bigger than the conservative resurgence of the 80s. It needs prayer. Since my last post, two letters written by Russell Moore were leaked detailing his investigation by the SBC Executive Committee and the personal attacks he endured by the Executive Committee’s leadership. The shocking part of the letter to me was that Moore claimed that his criticism of Donald Trump was not the reason for these attacks. No, Moore claimed the reason for these attacks stemmed from his pursuit of racial reconciliation and justice for victims of sexual abuse within the SBC. He was attacked because he did not defend racists and sex abusers. This is way worse than politics. The SBC is at a crossroads, with its witness and identity in the balance.

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